Suspension woe’s…


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  • #35406
    AvatarRoadkill
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    So i thought my 2019 svartpilen 401 came with fully adjustable suspension front and rear. I saw reviews of people saying the WP forks and rear shock had compression and rebound… mine doesnt.

    The bike suspension specialist said ” in 20 years ive never seen suspension this bad. Im amazed they would sell a bike like this from the factory, im scared for you ”

    I brought it to him bc every bump.. feels like ill be ejected off.. FORGET pot holes, thats straight death…

    Anything I can do?!? Im on the verge of selling its. Its truly atrocious.. i dont want to spend 1k on new suspension thou…

    Thanks!

     

    #35407
    stroemstroem
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    2020 was the first year with adjustable forks. You are the first person I’ve heard to call this suspension awful though. This bike handles well, it’s not track ready, but it’s a good setup. I think it’s too soft on bumps, I’ve hit some big potholes and it soaked them up.

    • This reply was modified 1 week ago by stroemstroem.
    #35409
    VanessaVanessa
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    There must be something wrong with your bike’s suspension then. My 2019 Svartpilen 401 has pretty good suspension. It handles and rides wonderfully IMHO. Sure its a bit harsh over some of the worst bumps and potholes in the road, but I don’t want it too soft because it’d bottom out then. Have you set your pre-load/sag correctly? I weigh about 65kg in all my riding gear. I am quite short though, so I had Husqvarnas official lowering kit fitted. It comes with shorter front and rear springs and a shorter kickstand. Not sure if that has improved the ride quality of my bike over a stock height one, I’d guess probably not.

    What is very hard and uncomfortable is the seat, maybe that’s the actual issue here?

    If you want really atrocious suspension, then look no further than my Harley Sportster Iron 1200. That was borderline unridably bad for me. It literally threw me up out of the seat over potholes. I eventually invested in some custom made (to my weight and riding style) shocks by Nitron. This totally transformed the bike for me, especially as I went from 2″ suspension travel to 3″.

    So if you hate your suspension, upgrade it to custom made stuff.

    #35410
    AvatarRoadkill
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    <p style=”text-align: center;”>I cant believe i missed the fully adjustable suspension by 1 year. Damnit. Lol. Got thr bike used anyway…</p>
    Does nitron make suspension for all bikes?

    Sounds very expensive…

    Yea the suspension is truly that bad on my bike.. preload is set perfectly, but still. Ill be bucked off if i dont stand up off the seat in time.

    • This reply was modified 6 days, 19 hours ago by AvatarRoadkill.
    #35412
    stroemstroem
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    This is the cheapest Nitron.

     

    Nitron NTR R1 2017+ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401

     

    With some modifications, you can also fit a R6 rear shock.

    #35413
    AvatarRoadkill
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    Ah, And thats just the rear… really need both the forks and that for a balanced suspension.

    Thank you for the input. I know what im working with atleast. May have to just sell the thing.  Too dangerous as is

    #35414
    stroemstroem
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    There are also fork kits available http://formula390.com/parts.pl?D=suspension

    Before selling it, talk to a KTM dealer that has a WP Suspension Center as it definitely sounds like something is wrong with your bike.

    #35425
    VanessaVanessa
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    Good advice from Stroem.

    See if a local KTM dealer will let you test-ride a Duke 390, as that should be a fairly similar suspension experience.

    #35426
    stroemstroem
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    I don’t mean go there and test drive, certain dealers have WP Suspension Centers. If anyone can diagnose what is going on, its them. https://www.wp-suspension.com/authorized-centers/

    #35429
    AvatarRoadkill
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    Thats an excellent idea!

    There very well could be something wrong with it… ill definitely give it a shot. Thank you!!

    #35430
    VanessaVanessa
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    OK, but what I meant was if you test rode a similar bike, and the suspension felt as bad, then you’ll know the bike is not for you. In my experience, KTM dealers with the full WP suspension specialist facilities are few and far between. But most dealers would have a demo bike, so it might be easier or quicker or cheaper just to ride another bike first before paying for a suspension check up. Just a suggestion.

    #35438
    AvatarBo
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    if your suspension specialist says stuff like ” in 20 years ive never seen suspension this bad. Im amazed they would sell a bike like this from the factory, im scared for you ”

    You should stay away from that place.

    Set the preload softer on the rear.
    thats about all you can do, but it shouldn’t feel that bad, is there any dampning or the rebound just crazy fast ?
    meaning, can you dribble it like a basket ball ?

    #35443
    AvatarReed
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    “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it.”
    — Upton Sinclair

    Almost any competent suspension shop will be able to improve upon the suspension of a stock motorcycle, especially one built to a price like the 401.

    That said, I would probably look for someone a bit more constructive to work on a bike of mine.

    #35482
    AvatarRoadkill
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    <p style=”text-align: center;”>To answer your question. Yes i can dribble my bike like a basket ball. Preload is already set proper, and the person i took it to to look at the suspension, is a professional so i kinda trust them, and only confirmed my feelings on it. Its fucking dangerous. Im freaking pissed off that i bought this bike. Its got 15k on the od. 2019</p>
    So i went ahead and called a ktm dealer with a WP suspension service center there. I talked to them, its over 2,000$ to do front and rear custom suspension…. Definitely not worth it.

    They said my bike has WP forks made in India.. 2019 model. Its cheap. Theres nothing to them he said its like 2 parts. Not much they can do with it. Best they can do is service them, but he said it likely wont do anything…

    Yes I think its a good idea to test my bike out next to another ktm 390 of similar year or husqy 401.. other then that im just dumbfounded…

    Only if i had bought the 2020 model i wouldnt be considering selling my bike.

    Good pointers all thou. Thank you!

    • This reply was modified 3 days, 8 hours ago by AvatarRoadkill.
    #35484
    AvatarRoadkill
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    How? They did the preload adjustment. There are no other settings. Bike still dribbles like a ball

    • This reply was modified 3 days, 8 hours ago by AvatarRoadkill.
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